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Ricardo Gonzalez - Search the Underworld - Deborah Goldstern

Ricardo González
Underworld Finder Exclusive Interview - Deborah Goldstern ©



Ricardo Gonzalez at Chichen Itza
today's interview we report on an exclusive basis, has main protagonist Ricardo Gonzalez.

Although it is the first time we address in depth, the thought of this extraordinary Peruvian researcher, his name is not unknown to followers of Chronic Underground, and that more than one occasion, referring some of his work.

During these years the figure of Ricardo Gonzalez was growing internationally, and today is one of the scholars most required by the media and perhaps the most cited, when trying to elucidate the mysteries of the underworld.

Who writes this is an old settlement of outstanding debt, going back to my beginnings with the study of Cueva de los Tayos.

Over the years, what began as a mutual concern and exchange about the enigma of enigmas, was transformed over time into a long-standing friendship, which continues to consolidate.

Prolific writer, tireless traveler, despite his youth, Ricardo Gonzalez, shows an unusual maturity and humility and simplicity rarely seen in this medium.

A premise of Chronic Underground, is to hear all voices, especially divergent. We believe the only way to move forward on this thorny path, not always clear, and we repeat no one has the absolute truth. It may or may not agree with some findings of Ricardo Gonzalez, but it is impossible to ignore!

Attend the reader!


Many of those interviewed in Chronic Underground share a common pattern, where a UFO early experience paved the way later. In your personal case, this line seems to follow the same path. How were those early approaches to phenomenology ufo?
Like many people in the world, I witnessed UFO sightings at first did not understand. I was very young. At that time had only seen "lights in the night sky walkers Chosica, on the outskirts of Lima. But in 1988, when he was 14 years old, my experience was quite different: a concrete object as a sort of glowing sphere, and in broad daylight, he moved silently toward the ocean as I watched, amazed, from the patio of my house Maranga. I was very impressed. Then, the Lima press mention a "wave" of UFO sightings. Ie, was not alone. So it all started. Although I had to wait five years to achieve the first mental contact with "them." It was in 1993. And since then I have had the experiences.

I know that sounds incredible, but this was not only mental messages and UFO sightings. Later I had the chance to see, physically, to the crew, noting that look like us, except the very tall, could easily blend into the crowd that runs in a hurry any city on Earth. They do not come with bad intentions. Just watch us and seem to expect something important happening in the world and in our evolution, a development that could positively affect the way of "them."

When talking about extraterrestrial contact, your name is connected as one of the most relevant. But to speak today of communication with intelligences from other worlds, repulsion, and still not accepted. The official position despite the apparent openness of recent years continues to be very rigid in terms of accepting the possibility of interaction with these entities. Say the world stage on the UFO issue remains silent, as to the true nature of the phenomenon "Coincidís ? contact My experience is, of course, a half of testimony in many cases worldwide. For example, in Peru, had evidence of close encounters from the 60's in the middle of the Andes of Ancash, well documented and witnessed, and later sightings scheduled with journalists and into the early 70's. Speaking at the time of contact with beings from other worlds was crazy. And yet it remains a subject irritating to the skeptics, at present have greater evidence or evidence to show that "something" is watching.

There is even evidence of "high" that makes him, as military pilots, scientists or even astronauts. For example, when I was in the U.S. last September, I saw on CNN stunned a press conference several former fighter pilots in the United States, stating point blank that unidentified flying objects had been "neutralized" silos Nuclear America and the UK. The military claimed that these objects were not human, and that corresponded to advanced extraterrestrial civilizations. I think it is only matter of time before an official statement about UFOs that will perplex more than one, then, although in many cases these are beings from other worlds, other realities we face an "interdimensional" more than physical.

From the beginning, your research is oriented to the study of the underworld. These concerns led you to make long journeys, to some of the most emblematic places, focusing especially in the Andean regions. What are the reasons that interest? Like I said, it all started with the UFO phenomenon and alien contact me. But these beings from the stars in your message, I suggested to investigate some parts of Peru that were considered sacred since ancient times. In the midst of that task I found the underworld. And I'm on that path. For many years I have dedicated my efforts to understand the enigma of the inner-, his message, and share them to the world.

the issue is often associated with the underworld intraterrestrial, something which I believe causes much confusion. For example, the hollow earth concept is a term used when trying to delve into these issues. What is your position?
According to what we have said inner-selves, we have met our expeditions to the underworld, the Hollow Earth does not exist as such, ie it is not a world "empty" with a giant internal Sol tickets at the poles. I have thoroughly investigated the subject, and I must say that there is much confusion, since the disputed NASA photographs showing alleged holes in the poles, the testimony misrepresented and misunderstood U.S. aviator Richard Byrd. But the fact that there is no Hollow Earth, as speculated for centuries, does not mean they are not large underground facilities in the crust, which can reach up to 70 km thick in the mountainous areas of the continents, as the South American Andes. The Incas, for example, spoke of the Uku Pacha or "Underworld", and dealt with it in that inner realm that lies not only in the Andes, but in many parts of the world. In any case, the most disturbing is not the existence of these tunnels or galleries, but who built them ...

One issue that I can not address, to talk about underground cave is about of Tayos. I think one of the most knowledgeable people about their history, having to his credit with two important milestones. The first has to do with the expedition he led in 2002, reaching decrease in the depths of the mysterious cave. And a second gain, and I think perhaps more significant is the connection you established with Gerardo Peña Matheus, perhaps the last living link with the late Juan Moricz. What evoke memories of that experience?
is impossible to describe briefly what we lived there. It was a very special trip. And unlike other expeditions that go to the Cave to visit for a few hours, we had the chance to spend much time with the Shuar community and learn about their beliefs about the cave. Furthermore, in the underworld of Tayos, stayed three whole days exploring its tunnels and immense classrooms. Moricz was not lying: there are walkways, beams, walls and rooms "artificial." But you have to enter the maze to see the main building, shown mostly in ruins.

But most important of the August 2002 issue, is that we witnessed some extraordinary phenomena in the Cave. Among them the appearance of a white light that accompanied the group and wielding intelligent behavior. The seven members of the expedition we saw, including a native Shuar, José Saantz. Preparation in the Ecuadoran army command not prepared to see "that." However, it is not everything. The most amazing thing was the visit of some small creatures, 1.20m tall, slightly larger head than the body, with dark eyes and silver skin and terra-cotta. They moved swiftly into the tunnels, avoiding direct contact with us. Looked timid, and they resented the light if they were lit with lanterns. Apparently, they are nyctalops. Clearly noticed that they were harmless. Jivaro know them, call them "Sunki." Would be the guardians of the tunnels ...


The existence of these creatures in the background makes the alleged Metal Library would have seen Moricz and Goyen Aguado. Explain the true interest of scientists in attending the Tayos, including the group of biologists who went with Neil Armstrong to the cave in 1976. According to some sources that he uses to capture one of these living creatures, it was a secret plan or the same Ecuadorian-British expedition knew. Peña-Matheus, lawyer and close friend of Moricz in Guayaquil, I confirm some things. Among them, that Moricz had also seen these little beings of the Kingdom Underground, and thanks to them came to the "Taltos" and the metal library. The Sunki should play an important role in the world intraterrestrial income, as many indigenous cultures around the world depicted in rock art petroglyphs or near the entrances to these shrines that lie hidden beneath our feet.

Continuing Tayos. It is remarkable how much attention it is generating today. Recently the chain of Ecuador Teleamazonas dedicated few weeks ago, an important segment, and there are countless expeditions and documentaries and articles that are pending Andean cave. But collecting some frustration at not being able to penetrate his true secret, soon to be forty-five years without resolution. What is your reading on the enigma Tayos?
The issue is because all the initiatives Tayos study, whether by television, or some independent research, are rushed and ill-conceived. To this we add that the Shuar community is more reluctant to turn down a stranger to the Cave or other similar access in the area they protect. If permitted, let alone see the first few meters of the tunnel. Sounds good to care entries. When the mystery of Tayos is need to raise awareness eventually be in time for "them" and not ours.

I think the enigma of the Cueva de los Tayos show that there were advanced civilizations in the world before Egypt, Sumer or India. And that "Mother culture" hid his knowledge files "Arcas underground" stationed at various places on the planet. La Cueva de los Tayos is just one of those "Arcas". I have explored other locations around the globe where I think there are those information repositories, such as Titicaca, Cusco, Paititi, the Sierra del Roncador, Roraima, Guatavita, Mount Shasta, Mount Sinai or the Gobi Desert. This would connect in the old Buddhist belief of "Shambhala".


Another of your great passions is the pursuit of the White Brotherhood, which identifies me personally, being a of my goals to verify the possibility of their existence. This concern led you to make an incredible trip to Mongolia, perhaps the spiritual center of excellence world's most important. Somehow back on the road taken by Nicholas Roerich in the last century, who also had to this search as a priority. Can we talk about a turning point in the life of Ricardo Gonzalez?
The White Brotherhood exists. It Moricz underground society called "Taltos" the descendants of those lost civilizations "pre downpours." Yes, it sounds incredible. But after I met one of these messengers, on an expedition to the jungles of Manu in Peru, I knew the underworld-film equation with symbols-keepers of records, it was not impossible.
In August 2007 an international group traveled to the Gobi Desert, where 200 years ago, a Mongolian monk found a door "dimensional" having been visited in secret by a number of personalities, including scientists from the National Geographic or Dalai Lama himself. That light gate connects to one of the "spiritual sanctuaries" of the White Brotherhood or "Lords of Shambhala." Indeed, Nicholas Roerich was referring to them and their association with a strange stone be called "Chintamani", a supernatural object which reminds suspiciously or emerald Umina Goddess lost Inca, and the medieval version of the origin of the Holy Grail. In the midst of this avalanche of revelations, I found a set of keys that have kept me busy with his research in recent years. As Daniel Entin spoke in New York (Director of the Roerich Museum), the "key" to understand this great puzzle are the works of Russian painter and its hidden message. Roerich

crossed the desert of Gobi and Altai Mountains. I do not know if he met the dimensional gate currently guarding the monks from Khamar, but those trips through the heart in Asia they changed profoundly. I'm not surprised. Our expedition to Gobi was, as you say, a before and after for us. At least for me has been the case. My view of things, contact with these beings, everything has changed 180 degrees. I rediscovered that these experiences are much deeper than what you see in the "surface." Today I try to convey that vision, where one should be more free in his mystical path or research. Away from old ways or schemes that do not fit the times we are living, and what's coming. It is time for a change that will lead to another stage, more authentic and spiritual, but no less sensible and coherent.

Exopolitics has been established as the mainstream, as the UFO issue. However, their arguments do not seem to convince the majority of the public, criticizing its lack of rigor in terms of data, some of which are very disparate. How contacted, we identified the movement, or feel the discussion is mis background? I had the opportunity to discuss this issue with Dr. Alfred Webre. I think the term "Exopolitics" just puts you first and last name to that old initiative to understand how is our relationship with advanced alien societies. Whatever the case, I dare say Exopolitics is the current ill-conceived, but that still is being structured in the future projection. And the time put the record straight about his contribution, or the authenticity of those extraordinary claims that talk about secret experiments and human bases on Mars. But I'm not part of that movement. Perhaps because our experience contact us to see things differently.

Despite your youth, you are considered one of the most prolific writers in the middle, with a few published works, which began with the writing of Masters of Paititi . Today are presenting the brand new inner- , then a line started in Uku Pa cha, perhaps one of the best guides on underground sites. Is this a continuation, or we have a new look about the enigma of enigmas? Both
. Initially thought of reissuing "Uku Pacha," but from the time of its publication (2002) to date, much water has flowed under the bridge, new journeys, experiences, and of course lots of information about the inner-and relics power. Although some of these data were circulating on the Internet through our articles and reports, sentí que debía unir todo ello bajo un hilo conductor que explicara, en un mejor contexto y de la forma más objetiva posible, lo que significa el enigma del contacto con el mundo subterráneo.

Así nació Intraterrestres . El libro no solo habla de la Hermandad Blanca y sus santuarios sagrados en el mundo, sino que buena parte de la investigación se centra en el misterio de los 13 discos solares de poder y la piedra de Chintamani, objetos imposibles que parecen haber sido sacados de un relato de ciencia-ficción, pero que de acuerdo a nuestra experiencia y observaciones, es un legado real de los “Señores de Shambhala”. En el libro, también, narro nuestra expedition to the Cueva de los Tayos, the appearance of Sunki, and recent trips to the Gobi (2007) and Roraima (2009).

To conclude. What would you recommend to new generations who start this way? Do not follow anything or anyone. Which are free. To investigate and question everything. So draw their own conclusions. And finally, as always, that road will not lead them out, but within themselves. That is the most mysterious cave that no one dares to discover caver. It is the real secret.



Ricardo Gonzalez, infinite thanks!
Tayos, the eternal dilemma Deborah Goldstern


Who writes is very attractive, attracts the attention lately the Cueva de los Tayos . From documentaries made by Ecuadorian chains, as recently presented by Teleamazonas , as well as the many expeditions from around the world are constantly occurring.

is innnegable that Tayos is one of the most important living enigma, a real magnet for seekers and scholars, who no longer go to his heart in pursuit of answers, so far no solution.

recently gave our opinion on the History lies where Daniken again reflect on Tayos. There we saw as the common pattern happens to disqualify Juan Moricz, the man who for us is part imprecindible in the saga.

But this same dilemma not only see in Daniken, but is a repetitive behavior of those in the enigma intereasados \u200b\u200b Tayos , trying to establish itself as the only carriers of truth.

is However Moricz where history Tayos acquires its true strength, and where we want to target.

That's why we want to make available to the visitor some videos, where we live who we consider the most authoritative voice on the issue, and we must listen carefully.

A missed Juan Moricz, rescued from Tayos - A World intraterrestrial, by ufologist Jaime Rodriguez in 1995.

Perhaps one of the best documentaries on the subject, and that already recommend.








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